I’m pro straight wall cartridges for the reasons you listed but am anti guys using 7 Mags. Which isn’t likely to happen, due to the nature of proprietary products. They are the kings of velocity, but the availability (and the high price that goes along with the limited availability) makes them a niche market. And the problem with shotguns is that they kick like a mule so a lot of people do not want to deal with them. Actually the 350 Legend is a stretched out .380acp cartridge. I don’t need a 350 Legend or a wannabe AR style rifle. I’ll keep my .327 Fed Mags, thank you very much. It is obviously intended for AR type platforms. This is a cartridge designed to sell new rifles and for no other reason. 350 Legend Bullets found in: Lyman AR Reloading Handbook 2nd Edition (Softcover), Lee Steel 3-Die Set .350 Legend, Hornady Interlock Rifle Bullets .35 cal .355" 170 gr SP Interlock (.350 Legend) 100/ct, Hornady FTX Rifle.. I’d give the chid a .243 or maybe a .357 Lever gun honestly. So guess I will try the 180 gr. Or 5.56, which also works. *accurately. .38 super and .30 carbine are rimless cartridges that bracket the high and low power ranges of .357 magnum. To quote one of our sales professionals, Will said the Dead Air Wolfman “is fully capable on both pistol and rifle calibers suppressors.” This Dead Air silencer has been popularized for its impressive performance on pistol caliber subguns and continues to be a strong contender out of our 9mm suppressor options. With all of the gifts that 2020 has brought us so far, we wanted to add something great into the mix. This list will show you the rapid fire stats in order to compare and contrast each suppressor side by side before we dive into more details. I now have learned that the 180 gr. Increased Penetration. The argument that they won’t feed is invalid. Need to find a dealer? .30 Caliber.450 Caliber; Large Bore; Multiple Caliber; Submachine Gun. And as such faces legal issues as a firearm having been sold w/o a 4473 and can’t be used as the intended purpose as a M/L in deer season. We also see plenty of .357 Mag and .44 Mag in levergun rifles. Legend $ 806.00. It has been proven to work very well on large deer. And btw, its best to resize a bonded bullet but resizing just 2k on the Speer Hot Cores worked so good you cant even tell by looking at them that they were bumped down. Yes 9 items; No 2 items; Tube Material. This 350 Legend will be deer legal in both here, but I don’t see that as any real advantage since we can use 6.8 SPC or 6.5 Grendel. (1) I have never seen ammunition on the shelf at any store. I never really liked it, it was just the least obnoxious in an AR pistol. Final Verdict: It’s no wonder that the SilencerCo Octane 9 2.0 made its way to this list. With my muzzleloader it is one shot one kill. In ‘straightwall’ zones the bottlenecks are out. Shot 150 gr to check zero. I think it’s because of the reality of the situation with rifle bullets and handloading. .357 loads are +p. Since the .350 Legend uses brass that starts off on the same machines, it is relatively simple to produce in large quantities. The .350 Legend has a number of great advantages, and it’s gotten a very positive reception. Finished price $674. I always thought those laws were strange, in WV we can hunt deer with pretty much anything that isn’t rimfire or shot. What they should do is eliminate party hunts and let use use non semi-auto rifles in any caliber. Winchester developed the 350 Legend to be the fastest straight-wall case hunting cartridge in the world. Legislators are generally made up of attorneys with political agendas, and the citizenry keep voting them into office. almost forgot , ammo is cheaper than .357 mag, 44 mag, 45LC. #4 Effective on White Tail up to 250 yrds *Reloading dies are available for purchase today. If the area is unsafe because of potential damage/injury to population or livestock, then state so and prohibit the use of firearms. The Wolfman is an elevated version of its predecessor, the Wolf 9SD. (IMO) Like the 30-30, most wounding is due to not getting both lungs and/or the heart. With such forward thinking and versatility, Dead Air’s Wolfman has earned its place as a top five for 9mm suppressors. Lots of comments about using larger diameter bullets–which I’ve done after sizing them. and the .30-30 with 781 ft. lbs. This suppressor checks all the boxes , and with a price point that’s very hard to beat.” Justin took the words right out of our mouths! This is the quote that’s relevant. It a winner in my opinion, a updated 351 in a lighter , handier carbine. This precision reamer was in their hands before anyone else in the industry and they were able to begin mapping the potential of the cartridge. Not having AR uppers chambered in .38-55 might be a problem for some – plus the fact that it’s a rimmed cartridge, which might complicate its use in an AR magazine. 9mm/.355 is one of the most commonly produced bullets. I think I’ll reserve the retirement fixed income I earned in 34 years serving this country for American projects made in American calibers and wildcats in American factories, and American men and women. Just my two sense. Or they could just buy a .357 magnum or .44 magnum rifle and be done with it. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. If you’re in this category, we tend to recommend a modular suppressor with an average diameter that allows a clear sight picture on your handgun while also providing optimal suppression on your rifle. Winchester appears to have copied the .357 AR wildcat, but “reinvented the bullet wheel” to make you go to them. At best it’s comparable to the older .30-30 loads. Is it just another 9mm a fraud at that, or is it a .357 magnum a fraud at that? But they are certainly available. If everyone was running around with 300 win mags in Iowa during opening morning you would 100% have issues with more houses, live stock, and potentially people. I work to get inside 100 yards for the kill. AR uppers not included in this post because I don’t have an AR so have not done any research. Sometimes, the best ideas happened 150 years ago and were then improved by smokeless powder. The parent case for the .350 Legend is the .223 Rem. Does what the .357 magnum does but with less recoil and extra rounds. They looked around at what they had and reached their goal with minimal investment. For myself the 450 BM is a game changer. At least several major manufacturers seem to believe in this project as demonstrated on how rapidly they have jumped on the band wagon and committed resources to producing ammo, rifles, barrels and other equipment. I have enjoyed reading the discussion on this subject. I see it is blurred out now! History repeats itself again. Then Andrews will completely hold true, Been looking for a 16″ 350 Legend AR barrel of late. We already got the 450 Bushmaster and 458 Socom if you want to use your AR lower to hunt. Being a handloader, I’d probably just stick with the .357 Magnum and a 16-20″ levergun in those restrictive areas and not bother with this new .350 Legend. Ask Josh: Do I Need A 6.5 Creedmoor To Shoot Long Range? It’s easier to handle in the camper than a 20g shotgun. The throat is also double my first KAK barrel as well. It goes into the chamber about half way and just stops almost every time. looks like this guy doesn’t like boomers and earlier. Two identical 350 builds and have a similar problem of not chambering some ammo, but chambering other ammo fine. I understand why some like it = modern state legal version of a 35 Rem. has a stronghold on our top 9mm suppressor group because it is lightweight, compact, and astoundingly quiet. Factory hunting ammo is readily available and reasonably priced, although I prefer to develop and tailor loads specific to my weapons. Internal damage done is very similar to 30/30. Winchester claims that the .350 Legend is the fastest production straight-walled hunting cartridge in … Caliber: .300BLK (subsonic), .300 BLK, 7.62x39mm, .350 Legend. Just like doing things different from others. Just curious, what cartridge wasn’t designed to sell new rifles? low recoil, low cost, straight-walled case that fit into the laws and guns of the area dominated by .450 BM. I have a 350 upper I made for my AR(only bought a shaw barrel), bullets are a nonissue factory 170 Hornadays fold up running deer like a pheasant. All though I haven’t seen the SAAMI specs, I assume the base diameter is the same .376. Actually the 350 Legend is a stretched out .380acp cartridge. I have a bear creed arsenal in 350 legend but immediately found out that the Winchester XP hunting round in the 150 gr. Works fine with both the Winchester ammo and reloaded Winchester cases with Hornady 170gr SP .355″ bullets and with new Starline brass. As for the other kids, this round peaked my curiosity. That said I kind of enjoy saying I have a “poor man’s 460 S&W” too. A .312 bullet won’t even fit in the case mouth of a .308 cartridge or bore without significant pressure increase that could result in damage to the gun. Changed to Wilson Match grade stainless barrels on both, still the same problem. The Obsidian’s design makes this suppressor extremely user friendly and user serviceable. Why oh why would they make, well, something along the lines of a 35 Rem straight-walled bolt/AR emulator and not use a proper 0.358 dia “rifle” bullet? Ruger, Savage and Winchester all make rifles starting from the Savage Axis at $349 with a Weaver scope mounted and bore sighted. In our gun shop in Southern Ohio, we can’t get enough Ruger 450 Bushmasters or 350 Legends. It will knock a deer down at 200 yards with the appropriate round. You’re still a wildcatter when you do this, you don’t know for certain what the start pressures for those loads are. This platform fits the bill. And light-weight rifles shooting modest bullet weights at modest velocities is such a welcome change because they eliminate the “hassle” of muzzleloaders and greatly reduce recoil compared to shotguns. I have heard the 180 grain XP round WILL CHAMBER… so who knows..gotta try that round I guess or go with another manufacturer of ammo but then will it be legal here in Iowa using a ammo that hasn’t stated their rounds are in fact, a .357 size round…. Stealth $ 767.00. Honorable mention and shout out to the Lunar-9 though. “The .358 option would have been a huge benefit for everyone and I can’t think of a reason it wasn’t made to work except to corner a new market.”. Our shots will be taken at a max distance of 150 yards, and most at 100 or less. I built an AR pistol to keep handy for bears. Personally, I agree that Winchester should’ve designed this cartridge for 0.358″. Bears? Like many of you I was against this 350 Legend thing in the worse way early on to and wanted nothing to do with it cuz I’m a 450 Bm fan and have been since they first came out. from a 20 inch rifle barrel, which is lower than any .30-30 load published in the Winchester ammo catalog. Couldn’t believe it That, I heard is possibly going to be a problem here in Iowa. But there are questions about the cartridge that need to be looked at despite the positive forecast. That’s not nearly enough lead. Best to shoot some before making claims. What bugs me is the 1:16 twist rate because Winchester sells 265gr. Cartridges designed to meet specific weird hunting laws for 3 states are extreem niche cartridges. Please tell me why this would exist? also the deer arent out on the flat open like they are in the hills in IA. The .25-06 and 7mm-08 both got popular due to handloaders. I am hopeful that this will be a useful rifle for my kids, but time will tell after this deer season. (for use in the .401 WSL) from .41 Magnum and .405 Winchester bullets done in a like manner. Ah, but there is a slight problem with .38-55 Winchester: the case is 2.085 inches long which exceeds the maximum allowable case length of 1.800 inches in states that restrict rifle cartridges. It shoots great! Here is where the 450BM and 350L make good sense. It took the whitetail right off its feet and made me a believer. The Revolution 9  has fast become a customer favorite because of its versatility, performing not only on 9mm, but also 300 blk, 5.56, 7.62x39 and 308 win. I’ve written a number of articles on that cartridge and know just how it works with anything from swaged down .458″ .45-70 bullets in the 400 grain range to cheap plated lead subsonics for range fun. While I was hunting in Iowa it was shotgun only. When Winchester designed 350 Legend, we engineered all of the bullets from scratch to be optimized for the new cartridge. I ran a stability calculator for various weights and BC and muzzle velocities with a 1:16 twist barrel and the result were disappointing unless the bullet stayed supersonic. Related Guide: 30 Cal Suppressor reviews and buying guides. Reloaders could probably find existing bullets that will work, but they will not be ideal for the 350 Legend cartridge. (2) I have never seen a .38-55 Win. Randy the 350L is perfectly legal for deer hunting in Iowa. Sad for him. I was thinking of buying a 35 Remington, but hesitate because of ammo choices/availability. It’s really up to the voters, folks. Bravo Man! I have hunted 20 years with a 20 gauge. Don’t speak about “the rest of us.” You don’t speak for anyone but yourself and maybe the people you know. In fact, I was quite excited about it when it was first announced. So many who hate this 350 just don’t get it. (I meet the nicest, most polite people ever – at the range.) Hornady decided to go with a .355 bullet for their new American Whitetail 170gr Interlock. I actually have done custom .401″ jacketed rifle bullets up to 300 grs. So I’m mainly archery here but if anyone doesn’t like the 350 Legend just don’t buy one and go back to bed. So what’s right here? I have some rather hot loaded .357 Magnums which perform well, but pale in comparison to the .350 Legend. 1 to 100 probably wouldn’t cover it. Contact us. If Hornady lists .355 on their box, it’s not legal in Iowa. The law was not written with gun control in mind. Hunting out west you see what happens when everyone and their mom has a 300 Rum but only a few know how to actually shoot them. None of this makes any sense except Winchester is involved. Common among all modern centerfire projectiles, 350 Legend’s SAAMI bullet diameter includes a tolerance to allow for slight variations in manufacturing. I know the 458 socom’s success (as a niche) is 2 fold – first it’s shouldered (which isn’t an option in those straight-walled states it’s marketed in). I’ve been building AR’s as a hobby for only a short time and I also have just started reloading. Might be a great opportunity for someone else to come out with a .358 based cartridge. Look forward to a review of this scope and a full review of the Ruger American Rifle in .350 Legend as we get closer to summer ending and the start of hunting season. Its impressive sound attenuation coupled with its durability has makes CGS’s Mod 9 one of our customer favorites. I have not found any of the heavier bullets to fire as yet for the 350 Legend but I suspect it will be fine. .352″ bullet (I make from .358″ and using a custom sizer) at some 1900-2000 fps. Those of us that reload 9mm know that it does mostly nothing to run a .357 bullet through a .355 bore. Its popularity stemmed from its shortened and wider stature, offering a compact, yet still extremely quiet suppressor without adding on a lot of length. Look at the specs and if you get a chance match a 380 to the legend. Mr. Shank this what we do after a surgery when we’re laid up and can’t even fish, but I love your enthusiasm sir! So in many ways, the Legend looked golden as a 35 cal AR. Many of the existing bullets on the market were designed for terminal expansion at lower velocities, and therefore will not perform properly on game animals at the higher velocities of 350 Legend. Bullets I pulled from Winchester FMJ white box ammo varied greatly in diameter. To quote one of our sales professionals, Will said the Dead Air Wolfman “, is fully capable on both pistol and rifle calibers suppressors.”. Just need new upper, or even just a barrel, magazine,and head space gauges. Case neck diameter for various .35 cal rifles range from .384 – .388. Is that really their concern? I guess not so much. I also am not concerned with the welfare of the coyote population. Leupold 1.5×4 scope n Monstrum mount! Just placed my order with Jay. At its price point, the Omega 9K was sure to be a top five 9mm suppressor! I am no fan of 350 Legend but understand in states midwest why they would buy and use it. There is no need for this proprietary .350 cartridge, except that the inventor didn’t have enough to do and got it latched onto by commercial companies. There was a bill trying to clarify all of this that died during funnel week in the Senate…. But look closely and you’ll notice that none of those Buffalo Bore, Double Tap, etc. I want to be able to use .358 bullets without the hassle or controversy. The Wolfman is considered a carbine silencer first and foremost, while it still works on a handgun. I come from a background of manufacturing and machining. If you are not an avid reloader you likely do not know this but one can easily have an infinite supply of custom .355″ rifle bullets made from any .358″ bullet you choose. PMAGs won’t work and I have tested them to prove it. I spoke to Hornady’s Neal Emery and this is what he had to say: I’m sure they have their reasons, but it’s baffling as to why they didn’t spec the Legend with .357 or .358 caliber bullets with so many more options that would work better at those velocities. I see two more problems with .38-55 Winchester: this is my first hunt here with my 350. This Dead Air suppressor features the smallest diameter, meaning that it clears almost every factory pistol’s sights. I have done so many times. Win win for local gun shops. Additonally, there is no risk of accidental chambering in a 5.56 chamber like .300 Whisper. Its about straight wall states, recoil and economy. This cartridge is just weird. From my research, it is the best current option available. A Winchester representative had this to say about the .350 Legend: In regards to 350 Legend bullets, please refer to the attached SAAMI drawing (PDF) attached SAAMI drawing. I’ve just completed a 350 legend build! Next day I got one to and I’m not looking back. I can’t tell you have many deer I could of killed over the years if I had an effective range of 400 yards. All that being said , it is very easy to shoot and all appear very accurate, not to mention the noise level is very tolerable. has been widely touted for its impressive sound performance and durability. The Wolfman is an elevated version of its predecessor, the Wolf 9SD. Kind of the nature of how we picked the "best" for this list but I can't argue with your choice! 350 legend suppressed, With increased velocity, energy, and stopping power, the 350 Legend is quickly becoming the straight-wall cartridge of choice. It’s stainless steel blast baffle provides dependability, while it's primarily aluminum construction cuts weight where it counts to optimize balance and maneuverability. Not even Hornady knows the answer to that. the 145 FMJ out of a 18″ barrel is a true 2300 fps. Can I get a catalog emailed with cost for my zip code? Your reason for disliking it is my reason for LOVING this cartridge. It’s a .355″ bullet . The appeal for it is obvious, to me. Over a million rds fired even at….well, you have a shooting budget and time to be envied. For hunters who live in states that require the use of a straight-walled cartridge for hunting, 350 Legend is a game-changer. The 358 Yeti sounds like a novel idea with promise – but, make-from cases that need extensive processing and Bruce’s high pricing were a shot in the foot. Bullets for .35 Remington would have been a good match for the .350 LGND. I purchased a Rugged Surge and have been very happy with it. The 350 Legend was designed to make the cut anywhere in the US for 250 yd Deer hunting. Have a 200-yard shot? What is up with gun companies these days? I’m pro second amendment and love to see guys getting whatever then what firearm wise. I just received all the parts to build the upper, and plan on doing so this weekend. Unconditional Lifetime Warranty. We know if it chambers .357 it will chamber .355. If you’re in this category, we tend to recommend a modular suppressor with an average diameter that allows a clear sight picture on your handgun while also providing optimal suppression on your rifle. It could do both jobs well enough for what I want to use them for. Both are effective. The next time they have an idea like this – just go back to bed. The result was the .350 Legend. The most common deer rounds here are .30-30 Win, 308 Win, .30-06, and .243 Win. Those 145 FMJ’s flatten out and makes quite a hole and dump alot of energy fast. The spec is for 357 bullets, the throat and case mouth are the same spec as the 357 MAX. It is a .223 blank(button)only drawn twice, and not swaged down to make the .223 end. Nobody makes a 1:10 twist 350 Legend barrel. Maybe instead of Legend we should call it the .350 Fraud perpetrated by some of shooting royalty and thieves at at a gun shop near you! The 350 legend may just be the perfect AR pistol round. Unfortunately, the 350-specific bullet selections for reloading are slim now and in short supply, so I may look into resizing some .357 and.358 projectiles. 350L solves that problem because of their design process: they use common/cheap sub components. These hunters experience what hunting is all about while also testing out the all-new 350 Legend cartridge. Whyat. Yes I agree that it should have been bumped up 2k and made .358″ capable because they would still have a tapered case but it isn’t. I like the limited distances of a shotgun but again hate the spray and pray accuracy of 99% of shotguns used to hunt in Iowa. I have found the Britts bought them as well. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. to see if they work correctly. I bought a Ruger Compact Ranch in 350 just because I didn’t have one. One dropped at the shot and the other staggered 10 yards. The new cartridge turns out to be just that good and versatile (e. g. 7mm Rem Mag). The .350 Legend is not a pistol cartridge, despite being quite similar to one in a number of ways. rifle for sale at any store. …and I have never seen a .38-55 chambered AR upper either. the P MAG can be mod easily to 350 Legend the two ribs at the front need to be ground down a little so the rounds sit straight i mod 6 ten rounders for my two legend AR. Each silencer in this list, while specifically designed for 9mm host firearms, is still incredibly unique to the other. I like the modularity of the Rugged Obsidian 9 and impressive performance. Only difference is length. *Winchester Power Points 150gr and 180gr bullets for reloaders are currently on BO at Midway but are on the market. Seems they have had issues with every cal they have put out. The .350 Legend (9×43 mm), also called 350 LGND, is a SAAMI-approved straight-walled hunting cartridge developed by Winchester Repeating Arms.The cartridge was designed for use in American states that have specific regulations for deer hunting with straight-walled centerfire cartridges. My experience is that 35 caliber rifles [35 Whelen and 1 in 15 twist especially] can do quite well with a slower twist than the charts say will work. It shot a 180 gr. The SiCo Omega 9K is also versatile with its 1.125x28 thread to accept a broad range of SilencerCo Alpha mounts and accessories, like this SiCo direct thread mount. It really does. What ammo maker doesn’t load 9mm? XP hunting round is supposed to work perfectly. This is relatively rare. Learn more about each product's characteristics. Of course I was wrong, PMC didn’t hijack the 350 Legend: Winchester gave it to PMC, and the work, and maybe jobs to PMC. The bases are identical as is the diameter. They should’ve just legitimized the .357 AR as is and been done with it. Given that hunting enthusiasm and participation has been steadily dwindling for the past 40 years, any change that can help reverse that trend is a welcome change. Glad to be of service and you're going to love that Obsidian 9! No different than my previous slug gun, I never used it for any thing other that the single purpose of deer hunting. View Specs. There are also several that are making or preparing to make ammo for it. My oldest, who is 14, can obviously handle his 20 gauge. All that matters to me is the effectiveness of the cartridge… my son and I both put deer down with authority. We reached out to Winchester to ask about these potential problems. This round is the nichiest of all the niche cartridges. As I type this article, there are five companies I know of that are either working on or in the process of introducing rifles chambered in the .350. Maybe a 6.5×55 Sweed if I had one with a short enough stock. I have no reason to get excited for it. Back to “so what”…..gives? I bought a BCA upper in the 350 legend and instantly purchased the Winchester XP hunting round for the 350 legend but didn’t know the 150 gr. Although you referred to young shooters you didn’t bring up old shooters like me. We have millions of PCC’s out there that feed 9mm bullets just fine. December 30, 2020 Kenn Blanchard explains why you might want to consider home defense with a suppressor for your set up, especially with the Omega 300. If variety is the spice of life, then the Odessa-9 takes the cake in this list. There are American companies making .357 guns, but they tend to be much more expensive. These suppressors come in many common / standard threads and calibers - like .300 Blackout, 5.56mm, 7.62mm, .338 cal and more - to fit your rifle perfectly. I live in Iowa and will not be buying into the 350 legend. Because of how straightforward it is, and its user serviceability, the Octane 9 should last an incredibly long time without sacrificing any of its performance or noise reduction. “should have waited for the spec to be out for the chamber.” Or maybe the manufacturers should have stopped dangerous components and specs from getting out into the wild? Who knows the true facts of a states laws as being what they will actually go by. I built a 350 legend with a Faxon 20” gunner barrel, GemTech 15” skelonitized rail and mft minilamist stock with a leupold 2×7 firedot scope and came in at 7.3 lbs for a great shooting rifle. It truly delivers great results.” Drawing quite the crowd for our pistol caliber carbine subgun users, this Rugged suppressor has secured its spot as one of the most popular 9mm suppressors to date. Find your favorite suppressor brand here; AAC, HK, Gemtech, Surefire, Sig Sauer and many others. Handgun: Alternatively, if you have a handgun you want to suppress, a smaller diameter suppressor will help you still be able to use your handgun’s sights. Slugs are not as accurate in real life like people claim. They’re already here. Read down the thread and see I’ve asked a similar question. A case could be made that the .350 is not legal as a result. Why not .357 or .358, which are more common to existing .35 caliber rifle rounds?”. If you are not 100% satisfied with your suppressor after your Form 4 is approved, you may return it to Silencer Shop for a full refund (in the form of a Gift Certificate) of the silencer (minus Tax Stamp) within 90 days of your Form 4 approval date. Really! When fired out of the same length barrel (20 inches for both), the 350 Legend beats the 30-30 in energy. What has happened to American common sense? A good 9mm suppressor and a 350 Legend and I could replace both my 450 BM and my 300 BO's and my 30 cal suppressor. As for not lasting, all the deer hunters I know have bought one, cheaper than 450B. As far as the .30 caliber comparison, there is a wide range of .30 caliber rifles, and European .30’s are larger than American .30’s. I hope the kinks get worked out, but I think I’m going to forego building an upper this year. There is a basis for potential legal concern. Usually you are using 1 shot to get your game. With this 350 Legend you have the option of shooting 150-grain Deer Season XP ammunition that has the power to take big bucks right off their feet. This blog post gives you just a taste of the incredible suppressors in our inventory, but it’s only the tip of the iceberg. Now you may be wondering what the best 9mm silencers were in 2019, since you, like us, enjoy nerding out on the most popular suppressors. I have been hunting for 68 years, and have shot everything from deer to moose, and have never had to shoot over 130 yards. They made a few mistakes with this. Or 6.5 Grendel if you desire AR compatibility. Straight walls in my opinion is the best of both worlds. We don’t really see a lot of Anything Magnums for deer hunting around here, given that a “long” shot in this area is 150 yards, and the average shot is more like 70 to 80 yards. So how did the new SilencerCo XXXXXXX sound? Matter of fact, the popular .300 Win Mag got created due to first handloaders (.30-338 wildcat), then Norma legitimized it with the .308 Norma Mag, which finally prodded Winchester into releasing their version. Why not the standard .30 cal 5/8-24. specially made Manson reamer in .350 Legend, TTAG Talks With NRA Dissident Donor David Dell’Aquila, Plaintiffs Move for Injunction Blocking California Ammunition Background Check Law, The Truth About: Hollow Point Bullets [Video]. Barry, Lunar-9 is a fantastic 9mm silencer. Deer season means family, friends and food. Some day, I may be able to move up to full-power loads in .44 Magnum (for a maximum range of about 150 yards) and then to .243 Winchester (for a maximum range of about 300 yards).