4 Phyrexian Obliterator 4 Geth’s Verdict 4 Tragic Slip 1 Liliana of the Veil 4 Distress 14 Swamp 4 Darkslick Shores ... because you’ll never get to the scenario where there is only one man standing and even the biggest of guys will be overpowered by a good curve. Best of all, Obliterator gives you massive devotion for the win condition. See more ideas about mtg, magic the gathering, the gathering. Other than that I would really like: - Land tax and scroll rack, because white needs some love in the non weenie department. Phyrexian obliterator would be flavorful and the intrinsic strength of the card is just gravy! Please enable JavaScript to get the best experience from this site. Here is a quote from MTG's R&D on the topic of overpowered cards: ... "Whenever a source deals damage to phyrexian obliterator the source's controller sacrafices that many permanents" - LOLOMGWTFBBQ , THIS THING BRINGS DOWN DUDES FASTER THAN … He had some 8/8 and Kozilek out which was a 12/12. A Foody at Heart Black has the threats and it has good disruption, but it lacks the caard advantage to work as a control deck. The Phyrexian Obliterator is not overpowered, as there are many solutions to get rid of him in the current meta. Duress, Inquisition of Kozilek, Mind Sludge. I think if we were in a more midrange environment like Alara/Zen, he'd be pretty house, but in an environment with clocks as short as this one, he's scary, but just comes down too late. I'll continue to say my feelings on overpowered card. The biggest issue is his lack of instant CA like the Titans, Stoneforge and Squadron Hawks give, and one notes that such creatures define a meta as it is right now. But dropping a warship on me is cheating. Don't give me that "dies to removal, so it's fair" phrase; By that logic, a 20/20 trample flying infect double strike creature at 3CMC would be fair, as long as it doesn't have shroud, indestruct, reg or pro. It's merely good. Dismember's prevalence hurts him here. A deck based around Phyrexian Obliterator. 1 Phyrexian Obliterator The biggest thing jumping out to me here are the Duress in the Sideboard over Thoughtseize. He is, however, a serious black bomb and extraordinarily mana efficient for all of the little perks that come along with him. He's restricted to monoblack builds, and if those aren't successful, he won't be. Well, what if we put some of those 2020 Magic cards to work for Humans? I think that Obliterator, when viewed alone, does not look so threatening, despite being a ridiculously efficient creature (4cc for a 5/5 with evasion, pseudo-shroud, and no drawback other than mana cost colors?). The first ability keeps with the spirit of the original card Liliana Vess. All talk aside, his accomplishments include a Top 8 at Pro Tour Magic 2015, a Top 8 at Pro Tour Magic Origins, a 2nd place finish at Mythic Championship II, 2nd at GP Denver, a team win at Grand Prix San Jose, a Top 16 finish at Pro … It most certainly will not be the reason *why* MBC could revive, but it might tag along if another card like arena or tutors or so on make it possible. His casting cost is a bit restrictive, don't you think? Best of all, Obliterator gives you massive devotion for the win condition. In a monoblack deck, there are other things you can be doing with your mana to better guarantee victory. Phyrexian Obliterator is not a 5/5 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth for B B B B. Compare him to some of the other Mythics. If Dismember or Go for the Throat didn't exist, I think you could make a case, but as it is, the Titans are still the standard bearers. This usually means the Obliterator and four others. Just because a card isn't good in Standard doesn't mean that it's not a good card. Phyrexian Obliterator The overpowered juggernaut that makes opposing players pray for removal while they quiver in their seat with the fear of sacrificing everything in order to protect their last remaining life points. 2x Drana, Liberator of Malakir all aboard - replacing her emissaries.. 2x Phyrexian Obliterator going into the sideboard.. We'll see. I'll be sad if people don't start calling. Those of you saying that it's not overpowered because it has lots of removal against it are COMPLETELY missing the point. The argument is without merit, however, as the banned list is designed to serve us players, to ensure the game stays fun. This usually means the Obliterator and four others. This is my adaptation of a Karador, Ghost Chieftain EDH with emphasis on stax effects for the main win condition. And it isn't making any showing in competitive tournaments. Just from that set you've got Elesh Norn (-2/-2 to all opponents creatures, +2/+2 to all of yours), Batterskull (vigilance AND lifelink on a living equipment), Sheoldred, etc. In Chandra’s hands, [card]Inquisition of Kozilek[/card] changes from a very solid targeted utiity discard spell into a bizarrely overpowered, targeted [card]Hymn to Tourach[/card]. The Phyrexian Obliterator is not overpowered, as there are many solutions to get rid of him in the current meta. My first pick would be Phyrexian Obliterator, because I love it but also because it fits black devotion incredibly well and is also referred to in Elspeth's nightmare. With its growing reliquarys, a fat mul daya, and the ever overpowered Phyrexian Obliterator, which can all come out very quick: turn 3-4, optimally at turn 2 and then turn 3 phyrex which is laughable. I fail to see how he would be broken anywhere other than maybe legacy, and thats only a MAYBE. He is, however, a serious black bomb and extraordinarily mana efficient for all of the little perks that come along with him. Phyrexian Obliterator is not a 5/5 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth for B B B B. I don't think red as a color will have too much trouble with him; Does anyone see the fact that his mana cast is perfect for a turn 1 swamp dark ritual. Phyrexian Totem can also work, although you'll have to have the mana to do it all in one turn. Unsure whether this is a good idea, will keep them in the sideboard. Her first ability must be taken into consideration and used carefully, less a player discard the card they need accidentally. F. Fj0823 Member. It's a reasonable tool with an unreasonable drawback right now. As for flavor, didn't Xenagos use the illusion of a [[phyrexian obliterator]] to trick Daxos into killing elsbeth? It’s not just a safeguard against us casting sweet spells. Nothing was made before me but eternal things And I endure eternally. The argument is without merit, however, as the banned list is designed to serve us players, to ensure the game stays fun. No wall was going to save me from this one. This era of incredibly powerful removal persisted until relatively recently. A 5/5 unblockable for 4 is pretty busted. Just from that set you've got Elesh Norn (-2/-2 to all opponents creatures, +2/+2 to all of yours), Batterskull (vigilance AND lifelink on … The only drawback is that all the mana is black, which you can get around. Even if monoblack becomes popular because it gets other good cards, Phyrexian Obliterator won't be the star of the deck. :D (Clicking this upvotes the deck) Trying my best to make this a modern deck that could hold its own against even against tier 1 decks, if you have opinions on what to change please voice them I am trying to make this as constant as possible. The swath of overpowered cards printed in the last few years has completely upended Modern as a format, leaving Humans as somewhat of a relic. I do want to try your deck as recurring the Silversmote Ghoul to power up the Priest and and Gate to the Afterlife is interesting. Point is, unless you have some creature removal, facing an Obliterator in combat is serious FML. Due to the Phyrexian Obliterator’s casting cost of four black mana (BBBB) the player looking to use this card must devote more of their deck around this mana curve. Even if monoblack becomes popular because it gets other good cards, Phyrexian Obliterator won't be the star of the deck. The cost will be the same as the previous Anthology: 4,000 gems or 25,000 gold to unlock four copies of each card. It's fringe playable in standard. Magic: The Gathering Arena Announces Historic Anthology 3, Cube Draft 1 of 4 Click to skip More From The Web Click to zoom Wizards plans to debut the rest If you do end up blocking it with something, you're saccing your own stuff and will pretty much get buried by virtual CA and land screw. Justice urged on my exalted Creator: Divine Power made me, The Supreme Wisdom and the Primal Love. Before he ever hits the board, your hand will be Duress'd, IoK'd, Mind Sludge'd, and Surgical Extraction'ed multiple times, Seriously the poster above me has it 100% right. CardHoarder 1070.63 TIX The swath of overpowered cards printed in the last few years has completely upended Modern as a format, leaving Humans as somewhat of a relic. It probably should've been, but R&D did a great job keeping it in check. Phyrexian obliterator, while nice, costs 4, making it a decent win con, but not inherently broken in competitive play. Im tired of hearing how bad mono B is right now, Ive been running a T2 Mono B deck on Cockatrice since NPH came out and frankly it is pretty solid. They even teased two of the 27 cards from Magic‘s history coming to Arena for the first time: Phyrexian Obliterator and Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger will soon join the Arena-exclusive format. They note that the card is overpowered, and some have even called for its banning. It wouldn't be fair. Obli hurts rdw can hold its own vs caw and with a good draw you have a fair chance of winning vs any deck. Abandon all hope - You Who Enter Here. When you target an opponent's Phyrexian Obliterator with Kiku or Kiku's Shadow, your opponent will be forced to sacrifice five permanents. This site works best with JavaScript enabled. I think he'd be broken if his mana cost was like 2 BB however since it's BBBB it's pretty whack. Obliterator, in a format that uses Mythics, just isn't that ridiculously overpowered. Matt is a frequent competitor on the Pro Tour, often at the center of controversy due to the outspoken opinions he expresses in his column. Mythic seems to have become an excuse to print way too overpowered creatures. This era of incredibly powerful removal persisted until relatively recently. I'd actually say that t2 is a fairly bad predictor of a card's true power level. The final ability acts as a nice touch when the opponent must choose what they might loose and how they will lose it. [card]Chameleon Colossus[/card] costs too much, especially with Thrun in the format, but it interacts well with the new land. ... Joiner of Forces (much like we didn't get to fight with Phyrexian Obliterator last week) things went pretty well for us. How can you say a card is overpowered when it isn't even considered a staple in a single competitive deck? I nominate Kor Spiritdancer. I'm still amazed that Phyrexian Obliterator isn't really that overpowered. Compare him to some of the other Mythics. Is Phyrexian Obliterator the most overpowered card in Standard r - Single Choice. I declare broken. Even by the time we were releasing Magic 2011 and Magic 2012, Lightning Bolt and Path to Exile forced us to create creature cards on the level of the Titans and Phyrexian Obliterator just to try and let expensive creatures see play, since the mana efficiency of the removal was so high. Your opponent certainly isn't going to activate it for you. Obliterator, in a format that uses Mythics, just isn't that ridiculously overpowered. also what about ANY creature that has infect??? This modern card is probably overpowered for the historic format, and regardless, something like 30-50 percent of decks on the mythic ranked ladder are playing this deck right now. For anything that costs more than 3 to be "broken" in competetive, it must essentially win the game for you, then and there, by itself (like jace TMS). Part of what determines whether or not something is overpowered is how they can be dealt with. Card Kingdom 19064.39 - 22575.31 . "Thou shalt respect all weakness and shalt constitute thyself defender of them.". The fact that it doesn't have any protection doesn't matter in the slightest. the power creep is strong in this one . Looking at it based on it's own merits, it is probably the most powerful card in standard. Ads by Fandom. The day you realize you too, can triforce! Phyrexian Obliterator is the epitome of the Seven Steel Thanes, a significant upgrade on the aging Phyrexian Negator creature. Part of what determines whether or not something is overpowered is how they can be dealt with. This site works best with JavaScript enabled. TCGPlayer $12007.11 - 22244.55 . he is very powerful to be sure, just not the most powerful in standard by a long shot. There are 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't. Interested to see what everyone thinks. It’s not just a safeguard against us casting sweet spells. Phyrexian Negator was a 5/5 with trample that cost 2B, and anytime it took damage, its controller had to sacrifice that many permanents. © 2021 MagicFind, Inc. All rights reserved. However, standard is rarely about what is the most raw powerful card. ... Joiner of Forces (much like we didn't get to fight with Phyrexian Obliterator last week) things went pretty well for us. If they bring that card back I'm not going to the release. © 2021 MagicFind, Inc. All rights reserved. The removal disrupts midgamers very well and then my low cost to power ratio cards just simply take over the field. It's not broken. If jace can be 2UU then any 4 cost card shouldn't have more than 2 colored mana in it's cost. Yup, now that Jace and Stoneforge are gone, it has no competition, Yes, and it has been that way since it's release. I voted no. However, his contribution to Mono Black Midrange deck will definitely give many other decks a run for their money due to the sheer creature advantage in MBM. They note that the card is overpowered, and some have even called for its banning. Most of the time this deck uses reanimator combos to get powerful stax engines such as Sheoldred, Whispering One and Butcher of Malakir online as soon as possible to keep creatures at bay. You can only play it in mono black anyway which isn't really viable. I'm still amazed that Phyrexian Obliterator isn't really that overpowered It could only be used in mono-black and it was out at the same time as Dismember, which let any deck get rid of it in a clean, non-damage-based, way. Bodyguard feels like a better observant: it gives a higher perception bonus (since the proficiency minimum is 2) and more combat options while observant gives a reading lips ability (out of combat flavor text basically) and +1 wis/int, which is pretty minor. See more ideas about magic the gathering, the gathering, magic the gathering cards. [card]Phyrexian Obliterator[/card], [card]Hero of Bladehold[/card], and the Titan cycle are all threats that I think are powerful enough for Legacy, and Cavern might be the extra nudge they needed. We'll see. So, I've opted to remove the Banishing Light from my deck. I do think some people may have answered this question, but aside from. Li Meng played Phyrexian Obliterator alongside other Swamp-loving all-stars to a Top 8 finish at Chinese Nationals in 2011. They aren't hard … This game sucks when you play against essentially the same thing every match, and when that happens, as it is now, WOTC should step in. Once your opponents creatures are completely wiped out you can start … Even by the time we were releasing Magic 2011 and Magic 2012, Lightning Bolt and Path to Exile forced us to create creature cards on the level of the Titans and Phyrexian Obliterator just to try and let expensive creatures see play, since the mana efficiency of the removal was so high. Come on, a 4 cost 5/5 with trample and a ridiculous second ability. It's kind of another moment when we throw our hands up and go "DAMMIT universe, why you gotta always make me look bad in front of everyone?". That was pretty interesting. May 1, 2019 - Explore Ryan Brady's board "Magic The Gathering" on Pinterest. Other than that I would really like: - Land tax and scroll rack, because white needs some love … Through me the way to the suffering city; Through me the everlasting pain; Through me the way that runs among the Lost. Please enable JavaScript to get the best experience from this site. Anyway, another factor with Phyrexian Obliterator is that despite how impressive its ability sounds, in practice, it's just a 5/5 unblockable creature for 4, which can still be hit with destruction and bounce spells. ''Whenever a source deals damage to Phyrexian Obliterator, that source's controller sacrifices that many permanents.''. Thoth the Obliterator cannot be put into just any deck. /mtgag/ - Magic: the Gathering Arena General - "/vg/ - Video Game Generals" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to the discussion of PC and console video games. Just goes to show how much power creep there has been for me to say that's it's just merely good. But she is not overpowered. But I had two Phyrexian Obliterators out. Well, what if we put some of those 2020 Magic cards to work for Humans? End of story, plus, you pretty much HAVE to be running mono-black... and mono-black of any sort isn't too great (due to not being able to interact with artifacts and such.). Phyrexian Obliterator saw play in Standard Zombie and Mono Black Control decks, Legacy “Pikula” decks (alongside Dark Rituals that made Negator such a terror), and Modern Obliterator Rock.