Have you ever had that happen? She is a pacer, pawer, and an up and downer, another words she’s restless! My concern is her age and his insane attention to her now. She will become restless and may lay down and stand up frequently. She will have a very high looking tail bone due to the pelvic ligaments loosening. That’s when I’ll separate them if I haven’t already. And my nubian cross patsey has had a clear/milky stringy discharge for 4 days now but shes not due for another 2 weeks all are first time moms all from tripplets its really cold and i fear for if they have the kids at night at this point i have so many other baby chicks ducklings chickens gueneas and rabbits in my barn i cant fit the 3 moms and ny other barn is houseing my horse and buck so my only other options are to bring them inside …. Is this normal? I am suggesting that you CONSULT YOUR OWN PERSONAL VET ABOUT USING THIAMINE and do as they would direct you too. When we got them home he mounted her imediatly. Turned out one was a boy and the girl was pregnant. lol. That night at about 6pm, we checked on her and knew she was in labor (what we thought early stages based on all the pictures and all we read! If its hard you may have gotten a doe with mastitis/mastitis scaring. My ag science teacher ,my friend and I are thinking about 24-48 hours. My boyfriends family likes to say the goats wait for everyone to leave the house EXCEPT the one person least capable (usually a new boy/girl friend) and then they deliver. Its been a cold winter here and have been overwatching signs tought she was due Jan 8th but but must not of took on that cycle so its going to be in the next few days. Here we are July 14th and she still hasn’t had her babies. And since I read your post I think the weight is dropping lower. We have raised Alpacas and much of what you mentioned is true with Alpacas too. HARD. Not walking again and seeming too weak to hold his head up. Also she started bunching over today , really weird. Im not exactly sure when she was “bred” but i noticed today that when i fed the herd she was hollering at the near by goats to get them away from her, and she was sorda hunching her lower back into an arch like shape, and breathing heavily. She eats, drinks, socializes fine. I’m betting they’ll kid soon– best of luck! Last week her udder started growing and what we thought was just fat dropped lower. thank you for sharing! They are very friendly still and are behind Heidi by about two-three weeks. Keeping notes is a very good idea! Could you please share your thoughts on this? Never had a mortality rate like this. :) that they have kids. I have mystonic goats. . I like being prepared to help her. One more thing, once pushing in earnest begins, she is very vocal to. It is so well worth $10 until the roosters start crowing at 3 a.m., LOL. Now were waiting on Grace she is due within the month so were watching very closley because it could be triplets. Make sure they are getting a good goat mineral with an adequate amount of copper in it. We had a male in with the female for a while and if she is pregnant she is expected at the end of March she has been days she eats a lot some days she don’t I’m unsure if she is going to be a mummy or not never had a goat before it is all new to me but she’s holding her tail down for the past week and then doing a little scraping the ground with her hooves. I was in love! I’m waiting on mine as I type… I thought I give you some more tips that I have found. We are watching 82 mama goats get ready for this and each one has their own personality. How long does this go on before she has her kids? Howdy! Thanks so much, Roseann. Thanks for being completely awesome. I also put sweaters on tgem since it was only 25 degrees. Her ligaments are completely softened, she is bagged right up, her back is nicely arched and she had stringing this evening when she called me out of the house. I really fell in love with this little guy. Please I need help? Lol. We have a Saanen named Gertie. Discussion Starter • #1 • Feb 4, 2017. I’m so anxious and don’t want her to kid alone but I’m not sure when it will be, I’m wondering if she’s going into labor soon. I’m so glad I ran across your site. Thick white, Creamy discharge before the period. Now she is interested in her grain. I’m glad you found them in time. I like the idea of keeping “labor notes” for the goats. My Nigerian dwarf Doe just had babies two days ago. Two days later the nanny died. If the mother didn’t have enough nutrients during her pregnancy that could easily be it. Discharges may be serous (thin, clear and colourless), catarrhal (grey, flocculent), purulent (thick, yellow), or haemorrhagic (red). I gave him nutridrench and got him in a warm car. Her ligaments thin out about 24 hours prior to labor setting in, she hollows out and drops and bags up to. I am not a goat expert. Last time she kidded it was freezing November! I am starting to get nervous! When things get this squishy, kidding time is getting closer! This is her first delivery obviously and we have been waiting for 8 days now for the kids to join our family. I know, kids are the only REAL way to know! She was uninterested in her grain and she layed in her shed all the time. I’m due any day now with my 3rd child, and my Toggenburg dairy goat is due at the end of March, early April for her 2nd year. Since they are our milk source I would like to milk as long as possible- but not compromise the babies nutrition. And should they get some kind of supplements while preggo and milking? Also after the babies are born it is normal for them to have a bloody discharge for 2-3 weeks. drought sold all but three older does with each having a specific problem. This is great information! Its been nearly 2 hours since she was loud her valva is puffy she has goop and if off with the pixies so i hope its soon, today is nice and warm for her so fingers crossed as for the other doe she has got all the other goats around her and she is making the bleeping sound she has a good size udder and showed goop a few days ago. My pygmy goat Tilly is due anytime now. The babies can grow too large. She eats normal and is a very attentive mother. (It just so happened that Cinnamon when into labor 12 hours after I published this post… And her bag was very tight and shiny this time around… Go figure.). As kidding time becomes closer, these ligaments start to become soft and squishy and usually in the day or so before birth, they will disappear altogether. I too needed a refresher on signs if labor! I have so many questions and I hope everything goes okay. They get hay, kelp, minerals and carrots (as milking stand bait ) and baking soda. Do first time mamas do a good job of cleaning up and taking care of their babies? She had not been bred to a large male, though the cria she tried to deliver was a large one, close to twenty-two pounds. Love your web site. I don’t think my husband is going to keep any of the kids .I do hope this works out .My husband turned our home into a small farm last year after going blind a few years ago and starting with rabbits. I began to suspect they were baby bumps. , hi i have a pycashmere goat that is in labor but she dose not have discharge and she is panting and laying down a lot and then i have a pygmy goat that is close too but i want to know how to tell if she is going to have the kids or if they are going to breach in the pycashmere or the pygmy but the pygmy keeps rubbing her butt on the fence and wiping off the discharge so how do i know she is going to give birth she is also laying down and painting a lot but she trying to push but no luck yet what do i do if the kids head gets stuck in the birth cannal i know to call a vet but what if the vet cant come then what do i do i’m new to the whole goat birthing i’ve only done it once so i’m worried please give me advice and thanks a lot, the pygmy is a first timer and the pycashmere is not. I have been checking her several times a day. I’m reading lots of articles like “8 Signs that Your Goats May Be In Labor“, and checking the girls daily. Thiamine is very safe to give as an injectable (give Sub-Q) and you should consult your vet on how much to give. How will i know if the baby goat inside the mother’s belly is alive? Yes, downward, not to the sides. I love the blog!!! We are due for bad storms, more snow and just real iffy weather over the next couple of days. We are guessing Heidi will have her kids this Friday or by next Friday, depending on whether or not the Full Moon effects goats like it does cows and usually humans. Birthing season can be exhausting, but so rewarding at the same time. Thankyou. All I can say is they must have had a craving. Thanks so much for your help and I’ll post updates soon! and mine too! Does anyone know how big a pygmy baby usually is and if twins and triplets are earlier? :) The sounds to listen for are grunting or strange goats vocal sounds(some yell a bit when they push, others are silent), but sometimes the first sound you hear is a high pitched(baby)bleat! Thiamine is very important for the gut and if it’s not available in there, problems can get real bad quick. If all the info here is true we should be having the next one by morning, We left our billy with Nanny and baby our first time and ended up with a 3 legged kid as a result. 2 The best way to know if the thick white discharge is normal for you is to regularly … Do you have any suggestions or advice for us, we are really attached to this sweet old goat. – She was walking over to the fence and rubbing her head and belly on it. But the main concern I have right now is the fact that winter just won’t release her grip. It is so refreshing to find other like-minded folks of my generation out there, but especially in the same state I live in! I milk twice a day now and don’t like it, I do want to try the once in the morning thing now and in March when the first kids are born ( after they get the colostrum ) but I’m not sure if that will work with our space. The other day I think the goats were trying to get Oscar the cat to knock the box of treats off the roof of the shed so they could hide them while my daughter and I cleaned out their building, so they could eat them later. You can tell she is hurting. And this is the first time in the three years that we have had goats that I actually witnessed a birth (I usually missed it by minutes). Udder was drying up when she came home and it has not completely dried up, but is not filling either? Our bucks and does are housed together. Her kid(s) are moving around nicely in there still, but she has not bagged up yet! I’d suggest separating them as soon as moms teats wax up to make sure something like that doesn’t happen to yours, but every buck is different. I have pictures its so funny! Shilo is eleven years old and pretty frail. This mucus lubricates the birth canal making delivery easier. This will be my first experiencing kidding but im concerned not sure if this is normal or not but my doe rose udder was full and tight these past weeks and I went to the barn today and its empty idk if that’s means she’s going to Kidd soon or what?? I drove as fast as I could to the vet but it was too late. 2 day’s later we had our second baby it was a girl.. SHe has not shown heat as far as I have seen in the 6 weeks since she came home from the ranch. Vaginal discharge can be abnormal or normal. white and clumpy discharge after using monistat 1 Lucky we have a rather large farm. We had not moved her out of the big pen yet so she was still with all the other goats. And congrats on your beautiful new babies! We just had our first kidding last week (very exciting!). The hard part is knowing WHEN you need to start staying close to the barn, and when it’s ok to head to town for a leisurely afternoon of running errands. I’m off to type my first “labor notes” lol. Whenever I’ve had any of my Alpacas, which is rare, come up ill, I’ll usually hit them with that first and then call the vet out. The last couple of weeks she has blown up like a balloon. – She does have a super full udder and her teats are getting swollen. This has been very helpful! you have to pay attention, make notes (like she said) and care. I recently was given 2 Nigerian goats, which I was told were both baby girls. I took on 2 nannies and a boy this summer for my cousin who lost his house to foreclosure. She was already preg. Anything you could say would be helpful. There are many causes of leukorrhea, the usual one being estrogen imbalance. . I have noticed all the signs so i believe by morning we will be having new family members! It’s her first kidding and mine, too. Can some more experience help me or tell me what going on should I be concerned or is she going to have to kid soon or what?? (Again, lots of wool down there!) It was one of the scariest moments of my life! I bought 4 pygmy does a month ago.was told the one was due 1/29.he saw her bred.Well almost a month later no babies.Her udder has been huge an leaking for a week.Hay was stuck to her but this am so I think she must be having some stringing.Her tail is limp.Wish I hav known her longer so I could gage this better.I appreciate everyone’s advice.I also don’t feel like a nut anymore for worrying.Thanks for the sanity check.Janice. However, this being my third year kidding, I feel like am I finally getting a wee bit more comfortable at being a goat midwife. old. As far as the grain, it depends on who you talk too. Could this be onset of labor? I am sooo sorry! The signs and their time frame are very, very different, depending on the goat. so thank for sharing your wisdom with me and everyone. It’s great being able to teach them things about animals, life and the world that they would not get any where else! Vaginitis due to a yeast infection can cause thick white discharge without any smell. Hi! Went out one morning and found the little girl with her leg stuck between the billys horns! The woman I bought her from said she normally always has 3! What could be wrong? She looks swollen too! We are excited but nervous at the same time. I’ve glanced over all the comments, but haven’t noticed anyone with the Tennessee Fainting goats! LOL We are nervously waiting, but your tips on when to stay close to home have been helpful in relieving stress. Note that some does will drip cloudy mucus as much as a month prior to kidding. Thick white discharge right … Stumbled on it by accident while looking for “frugal” food-grade buckets (thanks for the idea btw – I’ll be checking out the local grocers and donut shop the next time I’m in town). Surprisingly fast from a lot of stories I’ve heard. I feel like I have read so much about the birthing process that my eyes will pop out! Also- do you have a post with a “birthing box” type theme? Thick white discharge will normally have a mild odor or no odor at all. The second kid was delivered ten minutes later with such ease that momma never stopped licking the first kid until the second one was on the ground. She have been in pen since first of the year so been going nutz. She is getting very restless. I had 3 does last year who needed my help in delivery. Since this was my first time, what should I have done differently? For my Nubians the signs are sitting, laying down and standing up.. repeat. She stood up and I saw a solid black spot on the ground where she had been. She stayed apart for a few days and hen the buck, Tomball mounted her. ? Once I see this, I know birthing is eminent!! But I’m betting you’ll have some babies soon. I am raising her for dairy, but didn’t intend to milk her until the babies were around a month old. I was so fusterated….so this time I’m not camping out, but I have her very close & checking in very often. As you can see from the photo, I can pinch my fingers together and almost reach completely around the goat’s tail. Sounds weird, but most of them will do this. I also read that it you feel the baby move or kick around its not real close. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. They are all of a sudden super huge in the belly and acting different. Don't know if that's just an individual personality thing with that goat, or if it's a sign I should be paying attention to. Great list! We just have a small TV inside of our home dedicated to that and we can watch and listen whenever we’re indoors. I think my goats don’t like to birth when I’m there. One of the goats was coughing a bit more than usual, but not excessively. I have found, for us, we have had some amazing nannies! To be quite honest, I really had a hard time writing this post. She’s not a young goat, I rescued her from becoming someone’s pet food as they didn’t want her anymore. White and lumpy Vaginal discharge that is lumpy and either white or off-white, resembling cottage cheese, can indicate a yeast infection. Cover crops are an incredibly underutilized, very affordable way to fertilize your soil, decrease erosion, and increase organic matter. I had a similar thing happen to me. Last week she her utters sermed to get more baggy , she was laying down some pressing her head agianst things one morning her tale area got really loose but I could still feel ligaments I now can put my fingers around her tail but still ligaments there! Thanks so much for the advise, and i will keep you posted x. Mine will also get picky with eating. Our goats are all together, male & female. Hope everything goes smoothly for you. Because I had just viewed your photos I was able to determine that the kid was in a normal dive position and it was delivered 18 minutes after I first started watching from the house. Then I take the new mama and baby to a separate, quiet, clean stall so they can bond for a few days alone. Thanks for sharing your experience. Thanks for all your work on this site!. This is the first time I’ve raised any goats, but I’m very excited about it. Hi Karrie, I had my buck in with my does during my last kidding season and had no problem. I bought two goats back in september. You should remember that in many cases, vaginal discharge is a means for your body to keep itself clean. I am afraid we might lose the nannie or kids . Can anyone give me advice? But I’m tired of her little surprises! I do this when they’re not eating and also give them a good dose of the probiotic paste. Her babies have dropped and she has been pawing at the ground and can’t make up her mind if she wants to stand or lie down. Magnificent website. Vaginal discharge with an unpleasant odor is also caused by sexually transmitted infections like gonorrhea, chlamydia, and trichomoniasis. I will say though, do not completely count on that. My doe(whom I have only seen kid once) is acting very strange, she keeps on laying down and getting up, then kinda propping her self up on her knees while she is laying down. You’ll do just fine Anna– I know that it can be hard to sleep, though. ... Could be a reaction to latex! And two inseperable sisters. Her vulva puckers aprox 24 to 36 hours prior to labor beginning and she has the glassy eye look when a contraction hits. A forum community dedicated to living sustainably and self sufficiently. Ahhh nevermind in the sample instructions it says 2 cc of whole blood. Ive been.up every day and night for 2 days only sleeping 30 min at a time ………. Is it the change in her hormones or just a sex crazed very LARGE Nubian buck? Lomg teats, great mom w/help. My goats came from CAE free herds but b/c I have not tested the goats yet myself, I do want to be safe by removing the babies from the mamas and bottle feeding. Homesteading | Self Sufficient Living | Living off the Land, 144 Comments | Jill Winger |    Last Updated: March 17, 2018. Well, No babies yet. Thank you for your help! In the past we have camped out, waited nearby, and well been nervous, anxious, and excited as well as worried! Biotracking test prices aren't bad all. Our Miss Jessie had twins the black one died but Annie Oakley lived and she is just full of it. all signs are there finally will let you know how it goes. That was so nice because we could watch them through the day and make sure they were comfortable. We have three pygmy does and a male two of the does are twin sisters that are just now one and the other one is three years old. Because we had such a chilly breeze I assisted in getting the kids dry and moved them inside one of the shelters. They have since gotten over the complications and are doing great. I helped him and decided to bring him home out of the cold for the night. Don't really notice anything definitive? thank you so much for the onfo because it might help in a small way Thanks again. Just nervous and anxious to finally see our babies and start our bigger farm. Abby her water busted but she wouldn’t dilate. 2nd year in and my blondie and maddie have me messed up! A discharge of white or clear mucus may be evident when first urinating in the morning, making the urine appear cloudy. For the last 2 days she’s had mucas discharge and today she actually had a stringer. I have a milking/birthing question- my girls are due march 18 and both are being milked 1x per day. It is very very obvious if she is at term. Have had these goats a few years now, and never any major problems w/ deliveries. I’m not sure of an exact due date because she was raised as a housepet and did NOT like our stinky pee-covered buck, so after two cycles worth of trying and her rejecting him we eventually just left them together in the hopes she would get used to him. If you have roosters I wouldn’t leave it on at night though- unless you normally wake up at 4 am! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience on what to look for when kidding is about to begin. I’ve seen both…bagging up before and after, so I never use that as a for sure sign. Best of luck Sheila! Hi …. What causes white sticky discharge before period? The next two were saved. I tugged and freaked. One I found too late, it was cold and long gone. I saw no discharge or any other sign of labor on the 17th when I moved her to the barn because of threatening weather. This girl never goes off her feed and because she never shows the same signs twice I’m always second guessing myself! Nasal discharge is detected during pen inspection. For example, my goats only show discharge in the immediate hours before birth, but I know other goats have mucus for weeks before the big event. https://www.facebook.com/UdderlyPreciousSoaps, https://awiggington66.wixsite.com/lovingivyfarm, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWjHOxLzAJo, Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 3290 W. Big Beaver Rd. I have 5 of the cute little guys. Anything you can tell me would help thanks. Almost the same thing happened to me! ( she is a chow hound and loves food and normally has great appetite.) We did CPR, oxygen, slapped them upside down for fluid, and even mouth to mouth. ), and which baby belonged where…. I have 4 pregnant Nigerian Dwarf does and this will be their first kidding experience…. but this is my first time kidding with this doe and she is huge but there still are no kids! Again, goat labor is a diverse thing. So anyway, I looked under her tail today and noticed some discharge in and around her vulva. One important thing I learned was not to over feed during pregnancy. hiii hi i am soon going to be a grandma i guess u can say i have 2 nubian goats Coco and Sugar and this is going to be the first time EVER!! This, however, is our first time owning, breeding, and kidding. One goat (the one I’m waiting on now) I waited and waited. It was not until late July that we finally did. As a side note, I do not know anything about goats, but I can tell you that having Thiamine on hand can save your goat, horse, Alpaca, etc. Lou Ann always greets me with a kind word or two…but today she seems very quiet. She could be loosing her plug or she could be in heat. I think im more nervous then my girls. We’ve done dogs and horses for years but this is our first time with goats. I had my 6th baby last May but this is more terrifying. We had to cut her alittle and pull the kid out. Basically if you want to know, if you want to care, if you want to be the best care giver. If your vaginal discharge has a foul odor, it could be a sign of a vaginal infection. Each doe is different, the hardest ones are the ones that are shuttle. I rushed outside to try and rescue the kid only to find that I was looking at the shadow of a fence post. Thank you. I have a medical background so that part doesn’t bug me or make me nervous. I’m afraid you’ll probably just have to wait! Their whole systems get out of whack. But still no Kid. The one we had deliver yesterday was acting normal all day. I got a oops baby I bought my goat at the end of November last year to find out I bought her pregnant. He saved about half that way. My supposedly pregnant doe, whom we don't know due date, is showing a thick white discharge today. It’s looking like we’ll not be getting our goats this year (sniffle,) but when we DO get them, you can bet I’ll be referencing your Goat 101 posts, man! Or can they all hang out together delivering together??? , hi again my goat Sugar is going to have her baby about march 11 she is already starting to bag up and is looking a little “puffy” right now i am not sure if Coco will have kids and if she does she won’t give birth until at least april sadly i do not know when she was bred or if she was bred because the billy did not seem interested in her but oh well i guess i’ll wait and see thanks again for the tips and advice. We have only been present at one birth to witness. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. But it should be so totally obvious if she is about to begin parturition. Heidi’s belly has started to drop and her tail has started to look different the past day or two. Once you are at it for a while and doing well with birthing, you’ll be having others calling on you for advice and help with delivering their babies! However, I think she might be in labor. Thank you for all your help! “Molly” is only a year old and is a twin. Last year all our does gave birth in the afternoon or evening. She had a few signs here and there. I tried bumping but I am not really good at it? lol) and I’m a little worried. A friend gave us a couple of kiko does and said they were 5 or 6 years old. Boo boo baby had a really large kid, Charlie girl delivered early and didn’t dilate very much. Common sense, studying and finding a good mentor and having two vets on your team will help tremendously! The same discharge may be noticed on underclothes. yes there are things that are normal. 8. I remember the day when I first started out and it was scary! At what point do we new to stop milking? My kids are excited but when it comes down to it they’ll probably be sleeping, in school or grossed out when kidding time is here. Do you think she should kid in those hours? The babies(at birth, they came out kicking but never took a breath on their own). I’m scared to leave the house! I was told that the sooner we remove the babies after birth, the easier it is for the mama. I love your site. I am thinking it has to do with the smaller area I confined the mama goats to this time around, and I’ve remedied that; however, my question has to do with the 2 dead in sacs. to a more inexperienced eye the signs are more subtle. SO…..maybe next time we will relax a little more during that kidding time……well probably not….. , Hello Jill, Thank god i found your site. The male was first with them the 1st of October, and Heidi was on his date list the first day, then Velma, and then Daphney. It always helps when the goat has done it before too. . Thelma our goat started to bag up about 3 days ago! It was hilarious watching our family to see who could get shoes and coats on the fastest! As kidding time nears, you may see a thick string of white or yellowish mucus dangling from the doe’s vaginal opening. She is exhibiting the early signs of kidding and eating and drinking well. There is a lot more info on pregnant does on this page too: http://fiascofarm.com/goats/milking.htm, I have 2 first time pregnant nanny goats, Cinnamon and Sugar. My Nubian goat is due very soon. Their hips are also sunk in and they almost look anorexic.They keep hoofing at stuff. I don’t know if that could mean anything. These are all great tips! What are your thoughts do you think she could kid soon. She is an older doe, around 6 or 7 years? Thick white, creamy discharge before your period is particularly common. I am glad I found your list because she had discharge 2 days ago. Great post. Yeast infections also usually … I have tried and camped out many times. Thanks in advance; A worried momma. So I’m hoping that happens soon. I was looking for a little refresher on labor signs when I found your page. So how close are my babies to birth being that my males are wanting to mate with them? It is now 4 days of 10cc once a day with no He gasped for air and I knew I was losing him. That is exactly right, I never realized how noisy they are!! Goats have two cord-like ligaments that run along either side of the very rear portion of their spine towards their tail. :'(. He was beginning to walk on his own but still sleeping almost all the time and had to be woken up to eat. I just got into goats ( and love them) I just send my nannie to a buck and we are getting her back at the end of the month but anyway . Nelly is having her 3rd pregnancy and Sally is on her 2nd . http://www.fiascofarm.com has a ton of good article about kidding–I think you’ll find their stuff helpful. It was…. I called the vet and he couldn’t come out for several hours. Bacterial vaginosis (BV) is a condition characterized by a pH shift in the vaginal flora that makes it less acidic, causing vaginal discharge.